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These are the kind where the dealer feeds previously discarded cards back into the machine every hand or two, and there is never any pause in the game. Their edge improves markedly if an Ace goes "missing". You could play the game without this with the exact same rules and the same odds, but it would be much more complicated to settle the bets at the end of the hand. They do it's a very heavily used feature of the iDeal shuffler the One2Six model shuffler doesn't have a camera. I use to be a casino dealer. ColinWright on May 28, That's not entirely true. We never used server based slots but all casinos use a casino management system CMS backend to track players and awards points if they have a card and I mean each spin each bet per second every second all is captured. PhantomGremlin on May 29, Thanks for the extra details. And at the same times there's a weight assigned to certain piecs and combinations thereof. I built myself a somewhat fancy card table a couple of years back, and wanted to add an authentic built-in casino-style shuffler for it, and was blown away by how much these things go for. Not exactly. A reel could now have thousands of "stops" compared to 10 or 20 on the older machines. In that case the player would lose more, so the hand should be played out. This doesn't include server based slots where the theme the game e. Let's say the dealer shows a 10, then when they check, they see they have another 10 as their hole card face down. With these little windows, the dealer only see IF they have a blackjack, not the actual card itself. Wow how is that not cheating by the house? When I play these I can't help but wonder how this works. If you're good at counting cards, you can find the spots where it is slightly in your favor and bet bigger. It's actually there simply to speed up the game. Other problems are table felt fibers sucked in, makeup, hair around rollers, card dust all get on the lens and around the rollers. The few you can actually find on eBay still go for multiple thousands of dollars! Because it's the rule and everyone knows about it. Bally bought Shufflemaster and Scientific Games bought Bally. The cards are dealt if the house has blackjack then they have blackjack the prism doesn't change that only allows the dealer to know since dealer blackjack automatically wins against any player hand except blackjack. The lower the award the more symbols are on a reel, there are also virtual stops since a reel would need to have a diameter of 2 metres to fit them all on. As a player, the house already has an advantage over you. Recently random progressives that award for no reason i. I chose to go without and just shuffle the old fashioned way. Randy may even read HN, Mr Fromm are you there? The magic is US Patent 4,, Known in the industry as the "Telnaes" patent after it's inventor. After some time, it was realized that the careful design of these virtual reels is where the slot designer can create many many "oh-so-close" combinations of the physical symbols without making the player land any closer to the jackpot than normal. It saves everyone time: If the dealer has blackjack everyone loses anyway so there's no point to having everyone take the time to play that round. Miss Kitty, Joe's Yard Games, Lobstermania itself can be changed or the percentage can be altered by hour, by day by player. It's a fun listen. Not to mention with the old method the dealer would actually see their hole card. Because the rules in a casino about what a dealer does are independent of what the dealer holds. It depends on the house rules as to whether that's an option. Some slots alter the odds the higher you bet but those are not really common or at least we never had such slots. You're right, my explanation left that out. The issue is someone could be standing behind you and get a glimpse. As far as I'm aware there is only one other company with a decent one, and I won't link to them because of their extremely poor borderline scammy service. At least, it's more fun for me, because I win a little bit more and also get the fun of practicing counting cards. Ripe for 'disruption'. This happens because the markings for 10s 10, J, Q, K are all offset slightly to the right. Traditional shuffler machines have no bearing on your ability to count cards, as the game is played out exactly as it would be if the dealer were shuffling. One of the things I just love about HN is all of the "inside baseball" stuff we get to hear about. Specifically to check for missing or duplicated cards. Randy Fromm is another big name he runs Slot Tech Magazine. So they can check if they have blackjack without flipping the cards. It's affixed to a card table in front of the dealer. But the casinos probably wouldn't care for that feature. I wasn't involved in that much detail to know how each slot machine OS worked other than get the machine working so it can be played. There may be a rush of new companies trying to get in on this expensive market. Only digital yes although some have physical reels but the actual reels are just for show they have no actual effect even if you move them it will show reel tilt. If you're a poker table builder though you've heard of the company and probably read the horror stories in the forums. If so could you share some knowledge on how the randomization on these things work? The condition you're referring to only occurs on one specific type of shuffler, called a CSM continuous shuffler machine. You tune a specific manufacturer style of cards since they all are slightly different. Blank spaces are also stops. There is only one top award symbol on each reel. It was OK but many prompts of missing cards when there were there. Because it gives no advantage to the house. At least with a hand shuffled deck, most humans can't get a perfect shuffle, so the odds of any one hand shift slightly back and forth. Edit: table not tanke. But 23 vs 24 Aces does make a difference in the casino's edge. One of the most recent Planet Money episodes, Slot Flaws Scofflaws, explores slot machine design, to some extent. I've heard the patent or whatever it is SHFL has expires very soon. The main problem was a deck that wasn't in the database but I had to find one close enough to tune in. I'm assuming this is a legit game - is it just to make games of Blackjack go faster? Also, advantage players have found flaws that make certain models of shuffle machines vulnerable to attack.{/INSERTKEYS}{/PARAGRAPH} I'm a recently suddenly out of work slot tech forgive my reminiscing. The dealer could intentionally or unintentionally give away what their card is, causing someone who normally wouldn't hit on, let's say 17, to take a hit, since the dealer would beat them anyways. In "European style" blackjack, the dealer does not take a hole card until all hands have been played. Two cards are inserted face down but the prism reflect back the card number and suit so the dealer can see it. The auto shuffler means the house always has the same advantage on every hand. I never play on a table with an auto shuffler. Sometimes many times moisture would cause the card to curl pulling the card corner with its number and suit away from the area the camera views. That was a big problem you often get missing cards that aren't really missing. Then the Ace is offset slightly up the dealer turns it before sliding it into the window. Nothing is truly random of course, hence the pseudo part, due to limitations of the hardware and the crystal oscillators chips or software used to generate random numbers. And that semi-positive reinforcement draws the player in to play more. You find it interesting that Shufflemaster iDeal shufflers have a camera in them that reads each card that goes by it and stores that card in memory. So if a player later disputes and says he swears he had an Ace of spades the pit boss looks back in the shuffler history to see that hand given to that player did not have an Ace of spades it was a 4 of spades. It may not seem like much, but with perfect play the house edge is only about 0. Usually the higher the denom the higher the payback to the player e. The physical reels were now driven by stepper motors to show the landing position of that virtual reel. It depends on whether the casino believes they will make more money by letting stupid players play or by dealing more hands per hour. Additionally, it is very difficult to buy them second-hand: I would guess Shufflemaster may have some agreement with their customers that limits their availability in the after-market. PhantomGremlin on May 28, Shufflemaster iDeal shufflers have a camera in them that reads each card that goes by it and stores that card in memory One would hope that the machine actually uses that information in real time. The industry is amazing right now so many acquisitions. All in all, it feels pretty complicated but I might be completely wrong. So there is no benefit to the dealer for knowing what his down-cards are. And possibly there's even some rules like 'max number of points per x games can be no more then y' etc. {PARAGRAPH}{INSERTKEYS}But really leasing shufflers is far more common.